http://objectofhope.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] objectofhope.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] adddictions2010-06-12 03:38 pm
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ONE THING YOU LOVE / ONE THING TO WORK ON.

Tell people one thing you love about them and one thing you think they should work on.

One and one only! Keep it balanced, and tag around!
Obviously, participation is optional. Be nice, people. This is supposed to be constructive.

[identity profile] stripping.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Looking back at the first page of her tag on the community, I see about three posts I would consider non-sad posts. One of them got no replies. This one (http://community.livejournal.com/dramadramaduck/4378610.html) and this one (http://community.livejournal.com/dramadramaduck/4390111.html) received over a hundred replies each. As the song says, two out of three ain't bad.
Edited 2010-06-12 21:36 (UTC)

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
They're the same post, first off.

Second off the fact is, as I said up there, Fuu's going through a hard time. She's relocating worlds. Leaving her family in the only way that could possibly get her to leave her family. That by no means says she's never going to be happy. I do have plans for a happy Fuu, you realize? I wouldn't have begged for a Ferio for months on end if I didn't want a happy Fuu at some point in the future. And when I tag around, as I said before, she's generally her happy, bubbly, wide eyed self. She has her own reactions to grim situations, which generally show up in her posts, but she's generally happy when talking to other people, and always has been :\

[identity profile] stripping.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I edited. Now they're two different posts.

That's really not the impression some of the other muns in the game have gotten. We feel like this has been going on for far longer than this current plot. This has been an issue at least since Umi was in the game, and probably longer than that.

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
And when I brought up that I was uncertain on my characterization on plurk and hmd memes in the past, why was it never brought up before now? Fuu's always on my list of "GUYS, I'VE BEEN PLAYING HER FOREVER, SRSLY I'M WORRIED HERE" characters. I've built my entire characterization around some of these things, you realize?

And as I said, she's changing right now. I can't really do much more than move her toward a place where she's going to be happy. It's be blatantly ooc for her to wake up tomorrow morning and be SUPER UBER HAPPY. I'm trying to put her in a situation where she will be happy. The virus is actually a part of her being happy. Once it's over, she's not going to angst over it being over and done with :\ It's going to make her incredibly hopeful for a future where she'll be happy and deserve it, too.
Edited 2010-06-12 21:50 (UTC)

[identity profile] stripping.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's because the people who most want to give crit on you can't. You won't accept it from them. I'm not sure that you're accepting it from me and Tifa and the people who seconded me right now - you're making a lot of excuses before you admit that you might want to change. But you certainly wouldn't accept it from the people you dislike, and others risk becoming a disliked person by critting you.

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm putting up reasons for my playing her the way I have for the last year and a half, and anyone I talk to Fuu about can tell you that I've been planning happy for her for a while now :\ I like trauma--Trauma is fun.

[identity profile] leadhisarmy.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
JOURNAL HOP BUT THIS IS TIFA. I think Fedora actually responded to my crit very well and I can't agree with your pressing comments because Fedora accepted our crit and explained her position and admitted she's going to move in a happier direction, but she's right. Fuu is in transition and it needs to be taken slowly.

Please don't speak on my behalf again, I made my peace clear in my comment and I would respond to Fedora's but I am at dinner right now.

FEDORA; thank you for taking the time to listen to this. I understand that this kind of turned into a full-on HMD when it wasn't originally and you're handling it and taking that crit very well. :3

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
;km;lfasdf thank you ;_; t-that actually means a lot after the last month of trying to respond better and thank you for being truthful, as well.

[identity profile] leadhisarmy.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're doing an excellent job, I've had the thread pinned even though I'm on my phone and you've been being really reasonable and accepting of it. I really love it. <3

I wish more people could take crit this well, especially when it comes as a surprise like this did, and I'm really glad you appreciate the honesty because I try really hard to respect people enough to give that. ;_;

Anyway, yeah, I just needed to make sure you know you're doing a great job here and I'm very impressed. :3

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I've played Fuu for more than a year, now, and it is hard to firmly grasp the character that came directly for canon which is why I ask for help.

... Help could have come a little more gently than this, but I do appreciate it. I want to do Fuu justice and I love her.

I also want to make sure that people know that I, myself, am trying to change and accept criticism better, because I'll admit in the past I've been more than a little snippy about it. I responded to this post because I do want to play my characters better... I'm not trying to make excuses. But idk...

[identity profile] leadhisarmy.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Fuu is a really tough one to get and I admit I couldn't RP her so props for taking her on. Honestly, I've been at DDD for most of while you played her and I've generally found her spot on, I just felt this could be adjusted and figured I'd give the added perspective of someone familiar with the canon since it seems like Issei-mun is not.

I really aplogize that this has become as rough as it did, I feel partially responsible and you definitely didn't deserve the personal attack this appears to have turned into.

Personally, as someone very familiar with excuses in response to crit, I think you're giving explanations and personal views to try and help people understand where you're coming from, which is a GOOD THING because you're simultaneously saying that you're taking this criticism into consideration and I think a lot of people are ignoring the fact that you have SAID that you're going to adjust it and that you're trying to transition her to being happier.

If trying to take crit better is what you've been aiming for, you're definitely doing a good job.

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Ffff, this isn'y your fault at all. I was asking for criticism. You gave me crit with good canon evidence which I can now keep in mind--I've really been lacking on Fuu's rationality. I've been playing her off as way too emotional, and that's got to change.

Thank you very much. It really means more than I can say.

[identity profile] falselineage.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
This has been brought up before, actually, at that RPS post, but I agree that not enough has been said before. But, the reason for that is because so many people who want to give you constructive crit are scared to. Naturally, this isn't fair for you or them, but it's still possible to make subtle changes without ruining all the plots and CR you've developed.

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's been going on so long, it should have been said before. The RPS post was only a month ago and if what Mini says is right, my characterization has been off for a year. I'm working things out myself, as I've said, in a way that will make Fuu happy, later. I can't just throw her into super happy mode. It doesn't work that way.

[identity profile] falselineage.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
As I said, it's unfair for you, and I apologize that this has been such a slow process. I'm not an expert on MKR and I can't say much, but I know some other players here have really helpful crit that I highly encourage for them to step up and say. I hope this does help without altering your future plans with her drastically.

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
So long as they don't mind rationalization on my part of why I play her as I do, I'm fine with it.

... And so long as it's not an attack, either. Please, I'm being civil, or at least I am fully intending to be, and I'd like the same respect.

[identity profile] falselineage.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, you're being civil here, and I'm not trying to attack you. Don't worry! Of course, people are going to give their own rationalizations for their crit in return, but hopefully that would lead to good discussion or compromise. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know~

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that you were XD If anything, as usual, you've been overly kind to me.

I have an HMD with anon and no IP tracking for a reason XD

[identity profile] falselineage.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The most I can probably do is encourage those people who do want to crit you to get on those HMD posts and finally settle this. Here's to hoping~

[identity profile] phoenix-temple.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
If they're not willing to bring it directly to me, I also take middlemen if I can find any willing to help?

[identity profile] lol-mouseketeer.livejournal.com 2010-06-12 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I am always happy to be the middleman if someone is more comfortable doing it that way!